Interviews with the Condemned

 

Interview no.11 (2006-03-05)

The 11th interview is held with Anthony Ross, housed on California's death row for the past 23 years. While in solitary confinement he shed his gang mentality and began to read and study intensively: History, psychology, political science, mythology, metaphysics, and comparative religion, for which he earned a degree. After ten years in the maximum security unit (San Quentin Adjustment Center) he emerged with self-awareness and critical thinking. He became a writer and in 1996 won the PEN Prison Writing Award for best short fiction. He has been published in several books and periodicals and appears in the anthology Children of the Dream: Growing Up Black in America. Presently he is writing his memoirs: The Road To Purgatory and co-authoring a book on self-transformation in prison with Stanley Tookie Williams and Steve Champion. They have recently completed a book of aphorisms entitled Sacred Eye of the Falcon, which is due out next fall. For more information contact him at the address below. We thank Anthony for answering the questions.

 

Personality:

Name: Anthony Ross
Prison Register: C-58000
Address: San Quentin State Prison, San Quentin, CA. 94974, USA
Age: 46
Race: African American
Sex: Male
How long on Death Row:
23 years

 

1:

Question: Where were you born and raised?

Answer: South Central Los Angeles, California, but my family lived in several different cities: Oakland , Carson , Pasadena , Watts, and East Los Angeles . By the time I was 7 we finally settle in South Central, about 5 blocks from Washington High School where The Crips were started. The neighbourhood had the outward appearance of being middle class, but every family was on the verge of poverty.

 

2:

Question: Will you share with us what it was like for you growing up? (Did you have a pet, a favorite game, hiding place, or favorite toy? Were you raised by both parents, a single parent or relative?)

Answer: Between the age of 5-11 I was raised by my mother and stepfather. He was a military man. Strick, extremely physically abusive, and alcoholic. The only pet I had growing up was a dog named Rex, whom my stepfather killed because he thought Rex was gay for humping people’s legs. I started running away from home at age 9 It wasn’t a game to me – it was real. The streets become my second home.

 

3:

Question: Do you have a favorite childhood memory? If so, what is it?

Answer:  My fondest childhood memories are visiting my maternal grandparent’s farm in the summer. Nothing particular stands out. It was the way things felt, looked, tasted, and sound. Being there I always had the sense that there was more to life, more than the crap I was going through at home. I just couldn’t put my finger on it.

 

4:

Question: Did you like school? If so, share with us your favorite memory from your school years.

Answer: School was okay up until 4th or 5th grade when I began to mentally drop out. I started to notice how my teachers only seemed concerned with certain students, the rest of us were left to fend for ourselves. The same day Huey Newton walked out of jail for defending himself against a racist cop, I walked out of my classroom because the teacher called me a nigger. I refused to listen to her read the book “Little Black Sambo.”

 

5:

Question: What person or event impacted you most as a child?

Answer: My stepfather . His violence. His rage. I was 5 the first time his fist connected with my head. That single event would engender an anger within me so profound it changed the course of my life. By age 7 I was already contemplating ways to kill him. In school and on my street I learned to settle every argument, every disagreement, and every misunderstanding with violence.

 

6:

Question: What hobbies or activities did you participate in while growing up, e.g. scouting, sports, etc.

Answer: I played baseball mostly before dropping out of school. In the 7th grade I was on the school team. But it was the street that held the most fascination for me. I shot dice, pool, and guns. I got into every mischief a boy growing up in a big city, with the streets as his playground, could get into. Burglaries and stealing was my hobbies. I would eventually graduate to more serious crimes.

 

7:

Question: What was your first job? Please describe your duties/responsibilities and whether or not you liked the job.

Answer: I had one job in my entire life. When I was 10 I became a paperboy for exactly one month. One day on my route I found a small transistor radio. Later that week one of my customers saw it dangling from my handlebars and bought it for 15 bucks. That gave me an idea – I stopped selling papers, for which I earned about 2 dollars a week; and started selling whatever merchandise I could find or steal.

 

8:

Question: As a child or teenager, what did you want to do when you grew up? Why?

Answer: I wanted to be an animator and work for Disney. I started drawing cartoons when I was very young, In the 4th grade I was one of five winners in a city wide drawing contest. Our prize was going to the Disney Studios and getting one-on-one of how Disney does animation. I was the only black kid. While there one of the animators told me, “Don’t worry, Kid. Niggers aren’t good at this sort of work.” I didn’t start drawing until I came to prison.

 

9:

Question: Do you have a favorite movie or book? Please elaborate.

Answer: I don’t have a favorite movie, my taste for movies is eclectic. I’m a avid reader so I have a wide range of books that I particularly like: Autobiography of Malcolm X – Alex Haley: The Baghavad Gita; Tao Te Ching-Lao Tzu; Howard Zinn – A people’s history; The power of myth – Joseph Campbell; Civilization and barbarism – Cheik anta Diop; Critique of pure reason – Emmanuel Kant; One hundred years of solitude – Gabriel Marquez; The God of small things – Arundhati Roy. Just to name a few.

 

10:

Question: Where was the most beautiful or special place that you can remember having visited? Please describe it.

Answer: Mt. St. Helen in Washington State – Before it erupted. I lived in Tacoma , Washington right before I was arrested and used to drive up there nearly every weekend and hike around. The place had a beauty and serenity that was indescribable. Being there was the first time in my life I felt peacefulness.

 

11:

Question: What is the funniest thing that ever happened to you?

Answer: A friend and I sneaked onto the lot of Universal Studios in Hollywood . We wandered into an area where one of those Black movies of the 70’s was being filmed and got used as extras. We ate in the cafetaria with the actors, camera and stunt people, then stole some souvenirs from the gift shop. We spent nearly the whole day there before a security guard chased us out.

 

12:

Question: What job or occupation did you have prior to your incarceration? Were you employed at the time of your arrest?

Answer: I was not employed at the time of my arrest.

 

13:

Question: Were you involved with drugs or alcohol prior to your incarceration? If so, please share the effects this had on your life.

Answer: I was an anomaly amongst my friend. I didn’t drink or use drugs. My high came from a much more visceral and emotionally dark place. At age 12 I became a member of The Crips gang. Violence was my drug, my ideology, my religion. The name I was given by my friends was Evil. I was what I had become, and the hell that burned within is what I visited on those who came into my path.

 

14:

Question: What do you miss most about the outside world and why?

Answer: Grass, trees, plants, flowers – nature. Everything here is steel and concrete. My feet have not touched soil in over 23 years. I have not smelled any plants, leaned against a tree or walked on grass since I’ve been here. This is what I miss most.

 

15:

Question: What is the one thing you regret most?

Answer: It is senseless to regret because you can not alter the past. Every event of my life, no matter how bad, intersects with who I am now. I believe to change a single event mean to change the whole fabric of my present state, the connections I made with others and my self-transformation. I am now self aware and have the ability to think critically. I wouldn’t change this for anything, not even my freedom.

 

16:

Question: Do you have any strong spiritual or religious beliefs? If so do they influence how you view the future?

Answer:  My spiritual philosophy is devoid of God, devoid of dogma, devoid of anything that precludes me from seeing the prejudice and hegemonic thinking that blinds and divides us. It does not influence how I view the future, but more importantly how I view myself. I have no control over the future, my concern is with now – whatever amount of time I have left.

 

17:

Question: How important is it for you to have contact with your family, friends and/or the outside world? Please elaborate.

Answer: For me connection is vital no matter how brief. Contact gives me a greater sense of my own humanity, and respite from the toxic and psychological cuts prison imposes on us. Contact gives me a view of life, the world, that I can’t get from any other source. It feeds me in such an emotional and cerebral way that without it I believe I would be completely empty. 

 

18:

Question: Do you remember your first thoughts when hearing the jury’s verdict of death as your sentence? Will you share this experience with us, e.g. your thoughts, feelings, reactions?

Answer: I was 23 when the jury foreman read the verdict of death. My trial was a joke, my judge was pro-prosecution, and I had an idiot for a lawyer – The word “death” didn’t sting me, and I wasn't shock by it. In a way I expected it. I had already walked out of the courtroom on 3 occasions, and when the verdict was read I walked out again. It was only later, sitting in my cell, did the word numb me.

 

19:

Question: What is a typical day like for you on death row?

Answer: Read my prose entitles; Routines (click the link)

 

20:

Question: Do you feel that capital punishment serves as a deterrent? Yes/No Please elaborate on you answer.

Answer: I was the 107th person on California ’s death row – there are nearly 700 people on the row now. Capital punishment may be many things, but a deterrent it is not. Most people convicted of murder get life in California . The notion that murder serve as a deterrent to murder is a train wreck of logic and makes about as much sense as using torture to extract valuable information from someone.

 

21:

Question: If you could change one thing in the world today, what would it be and why?

Answer: The world’s dependency on fossil fuel. It is this dependency, more than any other, that has placed the planet on a course of irreversible damage. That has fuelled wars, environmental destruction, and the loss of countless lives. Less dependency would mean newer and cleaner substainable fuel has to be created with the global community in mind, not just the wealthy nations.

 

22:

Question: If you could go back in time, where and to what date would you travel and why?

Answer: Day one: The Big Bang – to satisfy my human curiosity for the answer to the question of science vs. religion. To see firsthand the interconnectedness of all things. To see if this world was the only possibility of all possible worlds. And to ask God, if one does exist, just what in the hell was he thinking?

 

23:

Question: What has been the most important and life-altering event you have experienced?

Answer: Self-realization: This gave me the ability to transcend the pathological mentally that had dictated my life. It reattached my spirit to something beyond the hell I existed in. It revitalized my humanity and allowed me to contextualize love and compassion in a way that was meaningful, healthy, and unselfish.

 

24:

Question: What is the most important thing that you want our visitors to know about you?

Answer: That self-change is possible. Redemption is possible.

 

25:

Question: If you have anything else that you would like included as a part of this interview, please share it with us now.

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